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#1 Alex4SA

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 03:46 AM

The Trilogy of the Beauties series, Scheme of Beauties (Meiren Xinji - 美人心计), Beauty Empire ( Mei Ren Tian Xia - 美人天下) and now comes Beauties without Tears/ In Love with Power (山河恋-美人无泪). Brought to you by Director: Liang Shengquan.

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HongTaiJi (the first emperor of Qing dynasty) may be famous for changing the jin to manchu, but his love stories are a battle of their own.

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Hawick = Hong Tai Ji, 4th Prince, Da Han (emperor)
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Yuan Shan Shan = Da Yu Er (Yu Fu Jin), Empress Xiao Zhuang Wen
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Dong Han = Dorgon, 14th Prince
Ada Choi = Empress Xiao Duan Wen, Borjigit Jerjer
Zhang Meng = Hai Lan Zhu , Borjigit Harjol, Consort Chen

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Da Yu Er and Hai Lan Zhu are sisters with the same father but different mothers, because of clan and wife (mother's) placement, Yu Er is a gege (princess), while Hai Lan Zhu is a servant. JerJer is Yu Er and Lan Zhu's aunt, she married Hong Tai Ji and loves him unconditionally. Tai Ji treats JerJer as his wife, and said many time she is the person that knows him the best. However, it is said Tai Ji love of his life is Hai Lan Zhu, even though Lan Zhu has an agenda of her own. Tai Ji saved Yu Er, and Yu Er fell in love with him, considering her hero. Dorgon and Yu Er are a bickering pair, but Dorgon protects and loves Yu Er, and promise Yu Er, even if no one is on her side, he will always be on her side. Tai Ji married Yu Er because she is known as a lucky star, her father once had a fortune teller said she will bring luck to her husband and rule the world with him. However, rumors fly between Dorgon and Yu Er made him unexpectedly care more than he thought he would, and love and hate only grow deeper as these love stories overlap with many other characters.

Please come join the fun, I am totally loving the story. Estimated 37 episodes. Highest viewer rating for its first week broadcast!

Edited by Char'sFaith, 23 December 2012 - 06:00 AM.


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Posted 25 December 2012 - 02:05 AM

haha, Sis I think I got you into it didn't I?

Well, I am totally loving this series. From what I see so far, I think they are on ep 21, you can see it on Youtube,]
Anyway, I think a lot of fans on weibo really like 14th prince and Yu Er together, while they like Taiji and Lanzhu. However, personally I am really loving taiji and Yu Er, while 14th Prince and his wife Xiao Yu Er. I think if Yu Er doesn't waver and continue to love Taiji, Taiji will eventually realize it and love her like he love LanZhu. Personally, I don't really see how LanZhu even deserve his love. She is really evil, it saddening because I like her character in the beginning, I think she would have lived quite a happy life with her first lover.

--I am super shock, but excited because apparently Yuan ShanShan plays 2 characters in here. The second her just appear and meet 14th prince, I wonder if she will replace Yu Er in his heart (since they look exactly the same) or how does it work.

By the way I love the 15th prince, he is so innocent, just like his brother the 14th prince. It is quite ironic that Xiao Yu Er is living the life like Da Yu Er, while 15th prince is living his life like 14th prince right now. But hopefully all will go for the better.


Also, Ada (queen) is just amazing in here, I am loving her character, and like Taiji just said, no matter how many wives he marries, there is only one queen for him. I wish they can make a series about their love too.

MV by Yuan Shan Shan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ItU4jwa-A

I love this song themesong by Yuan Shan Shan and Dong Han (14th prince)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FObb8BdbRFk

Here are some pictures.
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15th prince and ma shu (yu er's maid)
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Edited by Sparta&Ace Couple, 25 December 2012 - 02:13 AM.


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Posted 25 December 2012 - 09:24 AM

waw miss Sparta.. I agree with you..even Zhang Meng as HLZ is very pretty but I love Yu Er character more...Ieven I have to admit that YSS acting is not good (siggh)..bust still love the caharacter... also agree that Huang Tai Ji actually have heart for her too..Love Han Dong here...this is second drama that I've watch with him..the first is Sword without tears..although the caharacter is similar the kind one..but I prefer his look here..he look good in Qing's style ..And I just Luuuv Zhen zhen...such a wise queen..if i was her..and watched my husband with his new wife each time..argghhh...
I've watched in youtube until 21 episode...woah..this is the first mainland drama that i've watched while currently airing...(with unfortunatelly my very little chinese..still learning in the absic class...)...I used to watched korea drama and their fans give the english sub or the writing synopsis very very quickly...sigh.. I am difficult to find the english forum for Mainland drama...the spcnet not update too..
Can some one help me ..I've rewatched In love with power again (while waiting for the 22nd episode this night..hehehe )..but I think I draw the wrong conclusion (with my little chinese off course)
1. why Huang Tai Ji is so mad when he is knew the Yu Er pregnancy? Does he think it is not his child but prince Dorgon's??
2. Why Yu er keep her pregnancy as a secret?? what has zhen zhen told her?
3. Is Huang Tai Ji the person who order to get Yu Er miscarriage or it is Zhen zhen's own idea?

Thank you very much...

Aww..just for addition I love Dodo with Shu Ma..they will make a good pair...

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 12:45 AM

avocado80: great to see you here. lol I also like Yu Er, I don't think Yuan Shan shan's acting is that bad, her character is just that way. She knows if she yells at Taiji he would only get mad, so she rather suck it all in, which is just as bad, no communication.

Finally we can start more discussion.

my answer to your questions.
1.) I think you got it right, at the time Huang Tai Ji found out Yu Er is pregnant you can see he was very happy, however, when he found out it has been 2 months, he start questioning. At the time, when she was pregnant, Yu Er didn't want to tell him because he was going to fight in the front line, which also when he got surrounded and Yu Er to rescue Tai Ji went to Dorgon's camp. Tai Ji thinks Yu Er's child might be his, but also could be Dorgon, so he rather not take the chance, so he told Ada to help him get Yu Er miscarriage.

2.) lol, I might have already answered this question above, Yu Er didn't want to make Tai Ji worried when she is pregnant and he is at the front line, also there is a saying in China that you aren't suppose to tell anyone you are pregnant until after certain days, I think it was 100 days or close to 3 months? JirJIr or ZhenZhen (queen) told Yu Er not to worried she will convince Taiji that Yu Er has always been loyal to him. (unfortunately, she can't not betrayed taiji's order - to kill the fetus)

3.)opps, like I said above, Taiji is too suspicious, it was his idea. JirJir (zhenzhen) actually doesn't really care if the other wives have child or taiji love, she just want to make sure her spot as the main wife is always the same, and as the episodes go by shows, up until now, Taiji always return to her room to eat, to talk, etc.

hehe.. I wish DoDo and Shu Ma are together, but not sure if that will happen.

I really like Dong Han, Dorgon, I first saw him in Bu Bu Jing Xing, he was so mean and cold blooded, can't believe in here he is so nice and loving. I just wish he let Yu Er go, it might be better for both of them. I mean he has a wife now, a child coming.

Edited by Sparta&Ace Couple, 26 December 2012 - 12:46 AM.


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:23 AM

Thank you very much miss sparta....now I get it...
Even though her acting is still lack but I think she is not too bad..but hope she will get matured in acting soon..because her role is a female lead (that i believe she will get another lead because she is a YZ favorite.. wish she will be good as RYY ..because the pair is Wallace whom is my number one male chinese actor fave..hehehe..)..if the actress can nail the role well people will love the character..i think now Zhang Meng has "stolen" (in the positive way off course) the attention with her actinga s HLZ...
Okay back to the show...I want more of the progress of Tai Ji and Yu Er relationship.. I know that the palace drama is full with so many character that every character has to be given fair screen time..but I believe that they are the main lead...so eventhough they are not lovey dovey couple just like HTJ-HLZ..but their relationship should get enough screen time...even the misunderstanding or jealousy is not get proper screen time..there are many long lines in the other character's scene..but for this two..why the lines is too short to portray their relationship.....actually I hope the HTJ and Yu Er re-united will be given long scene..but after watched episode 24 ..sigh....not enough for HTJ-Yu Er shipper like me.
I ask being out of topic for a moment, I see that you are korean entertainment's fans too.. I am the fans both korean and mainland drama. Actually I don't want to compare them, becuse they have their own characteristics...i Just want to discuss that I found most of chinese drama disturbed me in term of the lack of detail and the editing...although I like very much of the grand setting and the outfit compare the korean saeguk...I found it too in this show..although I am happy that not too much..because I luvv this show (I even search tudou and get help google translate to find the article about this drama..hehehe..)..and I hope the quality is good to be one of the remembered drama..by the way can I ask the peoplem in mainland respond with this drama? how about the rating? How much point of teh rating in mainland series to be consider high?
Sorry very long post..glad to have someone answered my question...Thank you for the discussion

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 05:01 AM

^ I know they don't have enough screen time, Taiji and Yu Er should have more screen time together, I think because fans really support Yu Er and Dorgon that is why some of the editing perhaps kept them more in it. I think historically, they might have have a love line, I remember watching a history channel talking about them.

Anyway, the rating has been pretty good, they are getting top 5 view, right now around top 3. Anyway, the respond has been soso. Some said they change history a lot, while others mainly talk about Yu Er, more like yuan shan shan character. But a lot of people are warming up to the show and they are shipping multiple couples, I find myself doing that a lot.

and NO doubt I love their costume, they are beautiful, headset, etc. I think mainland series are getting better in terms of editing, etc. Before they are always very boring to me, dull colors, but now more and more dramas are more exciting to watch visually and storyline wise. I personally think it has a little to do with Hong Kong directors leaving to mainland to find more money, they bring with them very interesting ideas, costumes, etc.

If you like series like this, I think you should watch the first two Beauty series, they are better storyline, costume, and the pairs get PROPER screen time.

--But I was reading the epi summary for the upcoming epi. I think Tai Ji will have more screen time with Yu Er now :D I am excited about the next generation pairing too.... BUT I am afraid, Dorgon and Yu Er will definitely steal the spotlight too, I see some heart renching moments ahead. For Dorgon fans they love it though....

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 08:47 PM

I've been watching the drama (on ep 27) right now. Because I speak Cantonese and a little of Mandarin, my understanding in Mandarin is not that great; I just wanted to ask a few questions about the drama.

1) What is Namuzhong's true intentions in this drama? Is she trying to plot against anyone or she's just that person who likes to run her mouth and cause trouble?

2) I finished watching episode 27 earlier, so when Hailanzhu runs up to the building with her baby and Hong Taiji tries to tell her to come back, she trips and falls with the baby. Then the drama goes forward 2 yeas, and Hong Taiji is seen with a mustache and holding onto Hailanzhu. Does that mean Hailanzhu has been in a coma for two years or something? And did they say what happened to Hailanzhu's baby son?

3) After the scene where Hailanzhu suffers a fatal fall with her baby, you see Da Yu'er saying something. What was Da Yu'er saying about Hailanzhu?

Thanks very much for anyone who could answer!

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 06:03 AM

I've been watching the drama (on ep 27) right now. Because I speak Cantonese and a little of Mandarin, my understanding in Mandarin is not that great; I just wanted to ask a few questions about the drama.

1) What is Namuzhong's true intentions in this drama? Is she trying to plot against anyone or she's just that person who likes to run her mouth and cause trouble?

2) I finished watching episode 27 earlier, so when Hailanzhu runs up to the building with her baby and Hong Taiji tries to tell her to come back, she trips and falls with the baby. Then the drama goes forward 2 yeas, and Hong Taiji is seen with a mustache and holding onto Hailanzhu. Does that mean Hailanzhu has been in a coma for two years or something? And did they say what happened to Hailanzhu's baby son?

3) After the scene where Hailanzhu suffers a fatal fall with her baby, you see Da Yu'er saying something. What was Da Yu'er saying about Hailanzhu?

Thanks very much for anyone who could answer!


Hi, I hope I can answer some of your questions.

1) NamuZhong is actually trying to stay alive and live well. She is having an affair with HaiLanZhu's brother, but basically she is a girl that believe she can use her beauty to capture and play with any guy she want. I think she plots again all the other girls, hoping to be the queen herself. I might have read it wrong, but I think later her son will fight for the kings position again Yu er's son.

2) Hi, yeah it was another choppy epi there. Hailanzhu basically fell into a coma, I read that she will wake up and not remember any of this. Anyway, yup basically they are trying to speed up the story and so taiji all this time take care of her while working on his empire. As for the baby boy not much news, but historically I believe her baby dies after a year old or very young.

3) Well right before the epic fall, Yu Er said, if hailanzhu know the king was the one that cause hailanzhu's first love to die, then hailanzhu will go crazy, we should go over there, 8 prince is still young he can not handle any running or motion that hailanzhu was doing." However, Ada stopped her and said, "she was the one that killed your mother and push me to a corner. and the king was the one that cause all of this, so let him take care of what is coming, or his fault." AFTER the epic fall, Yu Er said big sister, then she said "mother, before I wanted to take revenge on hailan sister for you, but after hearing the truth (of why she did all she did) because of hailan's first love) that hate can not raise again. hailan sister because of --- brother wasted her whole life, and taiji also got what he deserve. This storm finally stopped with hailanzhu and the 8th prince fall from the stairs, now aunt finally got what she want. She became the queen and I and other wives got titles, but taiji didn't come to the ceremony. I also keep on asking myself in this battle, I thought about all ways I can win, at the end did I really feel happy, did I found love. I am glad I didn't went on the road aunt went on, and now I finally found my happiness (i am guessing her son)... "

and my own comment. OMG I love Ada's performance in ep 27 she is amazing, that snow scene was amazing, I felt the woman's pain. She basically was used by taiji. Her turn on hailanzhu was amazing also now she is not going to do whatever taiji tell her to do. Basically she didn't care before what taiji did as long as he treated her as his main wife, but now he can turn on his words, so she wouldn't care. JirJir got guts!! That scene her reaction to the baby and lanzhu's fall was amazing too. Her shock and dismay is beautifully expressed! Kind of happy to see taiji real crying too, before he just so into being a king didn't feel much real emotion from him. I felt kind of bad for Taiji he is a famous king, but his personal life makes him look like a bad guy.

They seriously need to put more scene of Yu Er in here with taiji, in the past 3 epi they hardly have any connection or alone time.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 06:41 AM

Thanks for answering my questions! And yes, I agree, ZheZhe's acting was insanely good. I actually teared up because I could feel that woman's pain. I feel as if later on she would be on the people who would help Yu'er's son rise to the throne, along with Dorgon's help. And when I saw the Hailanzhu's baby being flung like that, I felt so heartbroken. It was really scary to see that. I felt so bad, and yep, based on my Chinese history research, Hailanzhu's baby died early in real life, which is so sad to hear. In another drama I watched called Xiao Zhuang Mi Shi with Ning Jing and Steve Ma, Namuzhong's son committed suicide because he realized that Dongge was in love with Yu'er's son and not him. Really sad.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:15 PM

thanks miss sparta...you are giving many help..yeah..i am back to mainland drama again after soo many years because their quality is improving...they also added more drama in the wuxia...and in my opinion the bad characters in the recent drama are not too evil..the writer has given the depth of their character..such as HLZ, she doing that bad things because of her background story.. and I love the writer for Zhe zhe character...actually i think she is behind all of the mess, isn't she?? and i think the most remarkable acting here is Ada..she can portray Zhen zhen very well.. not to much not less..two tumbs up for her
Actually after In love with power i am become Hawick lau shipper...(oh noo..).. i have bought soo many dvd of his drama including SWAk (that I want to keep it until the finished of beauty)...I think he is very good when portraying michiaveous character..wkwkwkwk....And right now, while waiting for the beauty.. i am watching the Fragrance Guo Se Tian Xiang with Michele Yip..he is so adorable there...have to face so many painfull thing just f\to get love from his wife (sigh...very different from HTJ which sometimes i just wanna give him a slap.. if I was not remember he is the emperor..hehehe)..
Yes, I've bought the other Beauties two..not too found of Ruby because her character make Wallace character in Glamorous concubine suffered( hohoho..i am too subjective)..but i want to try the Beauty's of Emperor first...actually i think i've become YSS's fans...watch the MV from youtube and i find that she is very pretty in wu's palace dinasty's outfit...and Chen Xiao in it...(while waiting for Female Minister..)..aww.. am happy that i am late in finding mainland drama because right now i have soo many good drama to watch...Sorry for not on topic discussion...I just want to share my new fancies..hehehe...
Miss Sparta I want to ask you a favor..can you tell me what is Yu Er said to HTJ in episode 24 after the death of her mother that make him back to her.. I understand that scene but only in general..but i want to understand what exactly they are saying..thank you very very much..

Oo.. I just want to add that despite so many people critics his work.. I think i am begin to be a fan of Yu Zheng too..Lol

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 06:08 PM

14th prince's player is the same person as the 9th prince in BBJX, if someone notice.http://m.baidu.com/img?tn=bdlistiphone&ct=201326592&lm=-1&cl=2&fr=wwwt&word=九阿哥&ie=utf-8#tn=bddispiphone&index=6