[fiveidols]

[quote name='Gordon' date='Mar 30 2005 1 02 PM' post='840296']
THats why you don't like her ?Because she sings in mandarin and you can't understand mandarin lol?Then you must hate all mandarin artists

I agree..

Transition, on Jun 10 2005 10 09 AM, said:

I'm neutral, I don't hate nor like her. But her songs aren't really my type, but she does have a few nice songs such like shuo ai ni.

I'm neutral too

[.just_smile*]

look at this video: jolin even tries to sing japanese and she didnt do quite well

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=DebwFYKVBIQ

[Victor7]

Jellystar, on Oct 4 2006 4 26 PM, said:

1. Freedom of speech never exist in this world. You must be hallucinating.
2. You're not God. So quit being such a presumptuous person. I never intend to do what you claimed.
3. Stop misquoting me. I said you were sensitive as you got so worked up when I merely asked why you address strangers 'friend', not because I argued with you. Get this right.
4. Most may mean majority. But majority does not equal to all.
5. With regards to Jolin being your girl (when did I say that?), it was just an example. If you don't know what an example means, too bad.
6. Why can't I judge the way she dresses? If she can't handle criticisms, she should jollywell step down and make babies instead because celebrities like her do not deserve to be one at all. And I enjoy judging her, so stop being such a busybody.
7. You must be blind. Jolin is always almost naked if you didn't realize. This is my point of view so no point arguing over this.
8. How am I a hypocrite by self-proclaiming that I'm the most righteous person?
9. Again, adressing strangers and employers as friends is just another example.
10. You're lame and weird.

End.

1.freedom of speech never exists? then wut is this forum all about? do u even understand the meaning of freedom of speech?
2.??? wut r u talking about there? u r the one who claims u r indeed the most righteous person around. y now claim that i think i'm god? r u sure u r still sane?
3. again, for the final time : i never got "worked up". y do u keep on assuming things? how do u even know whether or not i got "worked up"? u got some sort of telepathic ability?
4.i never said ALL. there was never the word ALL mentioned anywhere. i said "MOST". who is misquoting whom?
5.? ur point makes no sense at all. i never said she is my gal. i said she is NOT my girl nor ur girl. wut's wrong with u?
6.Did i say u can't judge her dressing? i said as much as u can criticise i can defend. u blind,dumb or just trying to b lame? still don't get it?
7.i know tat's ur point of view. but if tat is merely so, y say tat i must b blind? ur point of view does not necessarily have to be mine. n i don't feel tat she is nearly naked. i jus feel there are many western celebrities who dresses or behaves worse than her. so wut is wrong with u? i don't have to agree with u. but y still call me blind? u lame or wut?
8.check the dictionary for the meaning of hypocrite. the most righteous person never commits sins. i don't wanna bring up the names here. becoz then it goes into religious issues n that will b a whole new story. n religious issues will b provocative. ( by the way, again, y i say u r contradictory? u better look at ur 2nd point n compare it to ur 8th point. n also check the dictionary for the meaning of "Contradiction")
9.? yes, it is an example. so wut's ur point? u ask me, so i replied u. tat's it. wut's the big deal?
10. better make sure u r still sane. because i jus realized tat u r beyond lame n weird.

by the way, if ppl don't understand my previous posting, then tat's their fault, not mine. reli, i wonder who is misquoting whom? some ppl jus don't seem to understand english very well.

~The end~

miniodd, on Oct 3 2006 7 43 AM, said:

Could I just butt in? After seeing your question on "jolin ain't my gal nor is she ur gal. so y r u so busybody with what she wants to wear n stuffs? tat's her freedom of choice. wut has it got to do with u?"...I just wanted to re-post (again, and again) what I've been saying. So here it is :

To sum up, I think Jolin sucks as a singer cuz she can't sing. More than that, she uses her body to promote herself. She wears revealing clothes, does sexy dance moves to the point that it's degrading and she might as well go work in a nightclub cuz she'll fit in. A singer is supposed to SING. And SINGING, not dancing, revealing body parts etc etc is supposed to be a singer's selling point. In case you haven't noticed every single news article about the bimbo is either about a) her boobs showing b ) her butt showing c) her rumours and boyfriends d) her G- cup fake boobs e) her sexy dance movements.

Not once have I seen ppl mention how great her singing is, how she's got a great voice. Know why? It's cuz she hasn't got any.

Now, you will probably say in response to that "It's not her fault. It's the stupid reporters focusing on the wrong bits" Well, my response would be, as I've mentioned several times before, stop wearing revealing clothes that show your fake boobs/butt everytime you go perform. You don't need revealing clothes to be able to sing properly do you? If you REALLY wanted ppl to focus more on her "singing" (cough) then stop wearing those sl*tty clothes. If you, however, can't stop wearing them cuz you're a bimbo/sl*t, then tough luck, cuz you don't have the voice to make ppl turn their attention to your singing. The only thing ppl will notice will be whether your head felt anything when it was rubbing against Stanley's private place. Or how it feels like to be the dancer that had his hands up your skirt. Or how if the skirt was just 1cm higher then we will all see your underwear.

PHEW. Now, to conclude. To quote a comment I've seen: There's no difference between watching Jolin Tsai and a tabledancer perform. Get it?

To make it even clearer for you, most of us dislike Jolin cuz we think she's a crap singer who uses her body and sl*tty 'dance' movements to sell herself. Not cuz she's my girlfriend or watever you were saying (and btw, I'm also a girl). So if you read my post again I think that pretty much sums up what I've been trying to say for the hundredth time, which you STILL don't seem to get. But whether you get it this time or not, I'm out of this. We're going on and on in circles cuz you don't seem to understand what we've been saying, and it's getting tiring having to repeat myself everytime you make a new post.

?? who doesn't understand whom? y do u keep quoting me for no apparent reason? n y r u telling me all this?? who asked u to reply everytime i make a new post? wat's wrong with u??? i said already, u r free to post wutever u want. r u sure u can read english?? sorry, i reli don't mean to b rude but u reli seem to be blur.

s2mikehe, on Oct 4 2006 6 25 AM, said:

omgg . this is stilll going onn ? . VICTOR . GETT OVER IT BUDDY. YOUR NOT GONNA WIN AN ARGUMENT ABOUT HOW GOOD JOLIN IS IN A JOLIN HATERS THREAD !! . its not gonna do anything but make this even worse if you keeping on biiitching at people

OMG..~ i tot u r at least not as blind as miniodd there. but looks like i am wrong. have u actually read my previous posts b4 u posted this?y do u keep on telling me i ain''t gonna win when i never intended to win or lose in the first place? oh for god's sake. how old r u anyway? do u even know the meaning of b*t*hing? ~_~

This post has been edited by Victor7: 05 October 2006 - 03:34 PM

[~Pucca♥'sSungmin~]

personally i dont know why people make such a big deal about her..she aint pretty and to me she isn't talented..sorry jolin fans '

[miniodd]

P.S After hearing that video clip from youtube, I think Jolin should go take singing lessons instead of spending so much effort into her low-class dancing.

This post has been edited by nanshi: 09 October 2006 - 10:22 PM

[red]

ugly duckling.



transform to...sl*tty swan? lol



flat as airport...



puberty can't do this much...

but surgery can

REMINDER:this is a critics thread. not violating freedom of speech or nothing but it's pointless degrading every Jolin critic in here, that's the whole point of the thread.

This post has been edited by red: 08 October 2006 - 04:30 AM

[CuteAznBunni]

lol..i totally agree with you red lmao. i love ur captions

and those two..up there..arguing theirs butts off..lmao..they're in their OWN WORLD!

she's ugly ppl, admit it!!!!! and she's quite scary....o_O

[jellosnake]

she is ugly at times, but sometimes she aiight. Wut i dont understand is y do ppl hate plastic surgery. It not like its something kept secret to selected artist, everyone has the same equal choice to do it. Another thing is, its your own body. who is it to say whats good or bad. Final note, im fine with plastic surgery, if it makes u look and feel good, go ahead.

[miniodd]

OK...She looks REALLY SCARY in those pics.
I'm beginning to think that she might've looked better w/o plastic surgery. At least she'd be more natural.

[nanshi]

MODBREAK TIME

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I have just cleaned up this thread with all the irrelevant posts to the topic. That includes any of the following:

-- "Flaming" other users (yelling, calling each other names, making fun of USERS, etc).
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To clear up the confusion:

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If you do not like the artist/idol mentioned (Jolin Tsai, in this case)... you can defend HER all you want. Go on about how she's so great, she works so hard, etc. BUT DO NOT BRING IN OTHER USERS. There is no need to insult other users simply because their opinions are different than yours. Likewise, those that do not like Jolin Tsai and are here to state their less-than-positive opinions about her are NOT ALLOWED to flame other users as well.

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[may (:]

ugh! hate jolin! she's so ugly and she thinks she can speak english really well when she can't.

[silvermoony2k5]

well, i have no critics over her.. don really follow her much, but when u see her past pictures u realize there is a big difference in her current looks and past looks... such a big difference, definitely surgery to me, her looks are not natural... about her talents im not so sure by the way

[LuNTwaRdINe]

Jolin...? I hate her. Her face is fake & her boobs too. But who can blame her? She just wanna be a pretty lady. And i think she wants to be like ayumi hamazaki. Keep dreaming....

[TheBalls26]

I dont really like her . Her voice isnt so great , she's just got a hot image which makes her popular. She is a good dancer though.

[miniodd]

You know, before I didn't really care about her. But now after all that stuff from her sl*ttiness to her rumours to her fake boobs I'm just so sick of her. Everything about her is fake, from "interior to exterior"....
And I hate how she thinks she's so great that she's going around telling everyone how well her album sold.....PUH-LEASE. Not only that, she had to publish a book telling ppl how good her English is, when it sucks (no offence).

Sorry I just had to come here and rant....

This post has been edited by miniodd: 24 October 2006 - 07:59 PM

[*bluebutterfly*]

yeah i dont like her very much either. In her video in Mr Q she makes herself look like a real sl*te! Well she does. She was all over Edison and i dont like to watch that when i'm a EG fan!!!

[swtstar_]

LOL ~!!!
such a biiigbigbigbigbig fuss about jolin tsai !!
save your breath people !! XD !!!
anyway i dislike jolin !!
just.. dislike.. weird face..
and she's not very good at singing dancing whatsoever
someone said her shows are quite great to see
eehm.. nah !!

wow she's so fake ?! =o
didnt knew all about that !
boobs/nose/face whatever 0_O

[Gingitsunespirit]

totally agree with red and LuNTwaRdINe

she is sooo fake. like her body is unproportional due to her augmented boobs.
she tries to sing with a sexy voice but fails
she tries to dance like boa/hyori/stephanie from csjh but fails miserably
she tries to act cute and innocent while wearing a micro mini skirt with a revealing top
she writes (and teaches english on tv) when she cant even pronounce the english lyrics in her songs correctly.

oh yea...i might also add that she's beginning to get wrinkles on her face. just look at the recent performance pictures of her, she looks like she's getting old. (<--that was not a critism, that was the truth)

[PuddingPie xo]

Some of you are going way too far with your opinions...
And about Jolin singing in Japanese, everybody has got to start somewhere and that was a while ago too, maybe she has improved.

[CuteAznBunni]

u know how DIFFERENT she looks in those pics above?? she doesnt even look like the same girl in all of them...........

*whispers* plastic surgery!!!!!!

[sporty63]

i used to like her in the beginning before she was really popular.
but now she changed her image... it doesnt suit her and looks fake.

[corpntachan]

I didn't know that she has plastic surgery. Thanks for posting the pictures above so I can compare her recent picture to the ones before. Wow, I can really see a big difference. I hate Jolin. She is very sl*tty in mv and in the concert. I admire her dance moves tho that she is very revealing all the time.

[pringlesmama]

i dont respect her as an artist, not much class, and no natural talent
but ive come to accept over time....reluctantly
that she does put a lot of effort into her career, to try and build a facade over her lack of talent

This post has been edited by love*knots: 07 November 2006 - 02:26 PM

[.Lolly-Pop*]

I liked her when she just released her new album. I thought, wow, that's really a BIG change for Jolin whom we know is the sweet next-to-door girl type till the 72 transformations where she shown improvements in her vocals and stuff ^^
But now, I can't say I hate her but I'm getting more and more sick of her news; she is so overrated and her singing isn't that good as I thought Her dances ain't that good as some had said, I think she's trying to show off her figure when she tries to dance and wears those "sexy" clothings
This ain't her style, this isn't HIP POP or whatsoever
Seriously, I was laughing my head off when I filpped thru' pages of her English Diary
I don't really think she has such a BIG boobs when she is so skinny
Her dances are becoming more and more sl*tty as she tries to change a new sexy hot images

[CuteAznBunni]

she needs more fat...she's way too skinny...eeew

am i the only one here that thinks her forehead is SO FREAKING BIG??

[kumori]

Jolin is actually not that cute hot or whatever. her production company must of did a great job marketing her.

having said that though, she moves pretty well .

[loveoncemore]

i dont think jolin can sing at all. jolin can kinda dance though. i started hating her when she said that her boobs are real when its pretty obvious that she did something to them.

[pinayboo]

she can't dance // she tires to but she can't
i am tires of seeing her everywhere.

This post has been edited by pinayboo: 13 November 2006 - 02:03 AM

[PuddingPie xo]

I LOVE Jolin's music, ^ her dancing just okay..not the best but she has tried hard which is nice.
I used to dislike her, but theres not really a reason for me to now, so I guess shes alright =]


I LOVE Jolin's music, ^ her dancing just okay..not the best but she has tried hard which is nice.
I used to dislike her, but theres not really a reason for me to now, so I guess shes alright =]

[PÖîŠÖñ ๑۩۞۩๑]

I know many people who likes her but I HATE HER also because she has a annoyin voice and a very annoying personality i dont like her at all hope she is never famous and just drops out of the music industry

[ziai]

I first discovered her when I listened to Shuo Ai Ni, cos Jay wrote that song for her and I am a fan of Jay. But after learning more about her after watching her interviews on ent. news, I started to find her really shallow and pratical. (In fact I find her even worse nowadays) She thinks she's pretty, dances really well and all that. Plus, she copies other artistes. No originality and creativity at all. PFFT.

I wouldnt say she's ugly, but she has flaring nostrils and such a big mouth.

I can't dance as well as her, but sometimes her dancing seems like mindless flopping arms to me.

But I can definitely dress better like her! I think her dress sense is the worst in the entertainment industry. EEEW.

Man, she's just plain stupid.

[♥..couture.candy]

shes acts like a total sl*t at her concerts...and mvs and most of her photos..

and recently got breat implants....alan get away from her!!

crazylife123, on Oct 4 2006 10 17 AM, said:

it's fair to say that 'Jolin' is a great entertainer. she has a good stage present. she's good at that. not many people could do the same thing as her. lee hyori or britney spears, both females arent great singer but they're good at entertaining people. even if you dont like their singing...but if you ever had the chance to go any of these three ladies concert you'll feel differently how their stage present can be.

just using this as a comparison...'Rainie Yang'....her concert compared to Jolin's concert isnt as fun to watch/enjoy. Many other singers are better than Jolin at singing...but Jolin is a better performer on stage.

better performer as in showing cleavage so guys can perve on her and dancing like a sl*t

i have to admitt, i use to like this girl

[CuteAznBunni]

ooh...very true..she uses her cleavage..SO MUCH..i mean seriously..put some CLOTHES on her...it's not like her boobs are that great

i just dont her appearance or her dancing...her songs are ok....but ARG!

[Michelle.]

I like her actually...
But I don't like how she reveals so much...
Like her songs/dancing is ok but her voice is kinda annoying~ xD
Other than that, she's ok. =]

Totally off topic but...
Pfft seriously, in her MV, Mr. Q, it was Edison that was DROOLING over her.
U think he doesn't like HOT girls???? Psst ya rite.
So screw it he is not Gillian's anymore, he has VINCY YEUNG.

[ore0_gal]

jellosnake, on Nov 20 2006 4 01 PM, said:

whos the other girl in the pic?

its elva... apparently jolin's good friends with her... i can't believe they kissed.. such a copy of britney n madonna.. such a turnoff...

anyways.. i personally don't like jolin that much...

i admitt that i enjoy listening to her songs.. however, i don't believe she's talented because she didn't write those songs.. i credit my liking for her songs to all the writers*.... i prefer some artist like Vivian Hsu to be my idol as she writes heaps of fabulous songs which illustrate she has talent.. like vivian is a sex symbol in the entertainment industry as well (partly because she was a porno star before) however she doesn't do over the top things to make herself look "sexy".. unlike jolin.. you can make urself look beautiful and sexi in many other ways.. rather than like rubbing against stanley's dick or like shaking her ass at her fans as a form of "dance"

when she first redeemed herself as an singer with the "look at me in 72 ways" album.. when she tries to sing live.. it's horrible... i don't know why her perfected mando accent in the recorded version of "shou ai ni" was sooo off... i do think she's gotten better in singing live.. i think she's really UP HERSELF... like in concerts n award shows she just sings and doesn't even acknowlege the crowd... i went to her Sydney concert n she said to the crowd.. "i'm the princess u guys haf to listen to what i instruct you okay?"... like wtf.. we paid to see you.. we are not ur slave.. therefore, i don't think she's a really good performer and probably nto that talented too because she made quiet a few mistakes during the concert..

i don't know why some people in this thread haf said that jolin is more talented than jay + jay used jolin to get fame.. but in my eyes jay's a much better artist and performer than joliN!! sicne i haf watched jay in concerts and been to a jolin concert... i haf to say i would rather pay to watch jay chow than jolin.. jolin's concert is sooo bland... because in my opinion all she thinks about is having a "perfect" concert.. unlike jay who put thoughts into concerts... with his incomparable concert when jay was singing "hui da gou qu" (to turn back time) he changed his lyrics at the end to "(xie xie ni meng)thank you all, (lai kang wo) for comming to see me, (wo heng gao xing) i'm very happy".. n in a huge mtv concert a few month ago, jay was probablie one of the highlight of the whole concert.. he once again changed his lyrics to "talk to the crowd".. he said "i heard here there are 70000 people, i can't hear your screams.. a bit louder please".. i think that is much better than jolin's concert/performances where she just go "HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII".... i think jolin is just using her sexuality to "perform" in conerts or award shows... she has no real talent and jay is so much better than her!

[cee_cee]

my goodness! it's such a pity that she degrades this far... i used to be her big fan, i probably still am, i'm not really sure...but the fact that i'm here rite now shows what a dissapointment she has become (at least to me)... what's with all those outfits she's wearing and those provocative dance moves? i tot she did fine with her old appearance--during J-Game era and even since before that... and that kiss, EUW! such a HUGE turn-off.. what's wrong with her?? she's becoming those attention-obsessed celebrities that craves for attention all the time n try getting it using all wrong ways... It's really too bad... as a former fan of her, Jolin Tsai is really really really dissapointing T.T...

[Happy-go-lucky]

I can only say one thing, whatever moves that Madonna or Ayumi had been doing on the stage, you can see that copy-cat doing the exact move/wear the same outfit as them..

Geez, cant believe she manage to convince elva to do the kissing act with her… how copy-cat can u get? And which person with the slight dignity would open her legs wide in public and wear so low cut in her performance in order to sell tickets. Cheap!!

Used to think elva is much classier than her, but after seeing that the kissing pic, feel so disgusted with elva too.. is she desperately seeking for attention, as that moron jolin?

[pretence]

ore0_gal, on Nov 21 2006 12 19 PM, said:

its elva... apparently jolin's good friends with her... i can't believe they kissed.. such a copy of britney n madonna.. such a turnoff...

anyways.. i personally don't like jolin that much...

i admitt that i enjoy listening to her songs.. however, i don't believe she's talented because she didn't write those songs.. i credit my liking for her songs to all the writers*.... i prefer some artist like Vivian Hsu to be my idol as she writes heaps of fabulous songs which illustrate she has talent.. like vivian is a sex symbol in the entertainment industry as well (partly because she was a porno star before) however she doesn't do over the top things to make herself look "sexy".. unlike jolin.. you can make urself look beautiful and sexi in many other ways.. rather than like rubbing against stanley's dick or like shaking her ass at her fans as a form of "dance"

when she first redeemed herself as an singer with the "look at me in 72 ways" album.. when she tries to sing live.. it's horrible... i don't know why her perfected mando accent in the recorded version of "shou ai ni" was sooo off... i do think she's gotten better in singing live.. i think she's really UP HERSELF... like in concerts n award shows she just sings and doesn't even acknowlege the crowd... i went to her Sydney concert n she said to the crowd.. "i'm the princess u guys haf to listen to what i instruct you okay?"... like wtf.. we paid to see you.. we are not ur slave.. therefore, i don't think she's a really good performer and probably nto that talented too because she made quiet a few mistakes during the concert..

7
i don't know why some people in this thread haf said that jolin is more talented than jay + jay used jolin to get fame.. but in my eyes jay's a much better artist and performer than joliN!! sicne i haf watched jay in concerts and been to a jolin concert... i haf to say i would rather pay to watch jay chow than jolin.. jolin's concert is sooo bland... because in my opinion all she thinks about is having a "perfect" concert.. unlike jay who put thoughts into concerts... with his incomparable concert when jay was singing "hui da gou qu" (to turn back time) he changed his lyrics at the end to "(xie xie ni meng)thank you all, (lai kang wo) for comming to see me, (wo heng gao xing) i'm very happy".. n in a huge mtv concert a few month ago, jay was probablie one of the highlight of the whole concert.. he once again changed his lyrics to "talk to the crowd".. he said "i heard here there are 70000 people, i can't hear your screams.. a bit louder please".. i think that is much better than jolin's concert/performances where she just go "HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII".... i think jolin is just using her sexuality to "perform" in conerts or award shows... she has no real talent and jay is so much better than her!

pls lah, since when vivian hsu write her own tune. jolin did write her own songs lah, pls (lyrics). Jolin doesnt receive music educatin since young thats why she cant compose. and she is much more educated than jay lah please, and know how to dance, and of course has better looks. jay is just overrated, not sayng that he's not good, but saying that jolin doesnt fit him is just atrocious. in this asian society when guys r supposed to recieve more privileges at education, i tink its bad that jay cant even match up to jolin in terms of education standard. and jay cant sing, he just mumbles. and his composing skills are deteriorating!
and do you know what is a joke!? when she says you all have to do what she instructs.. i tink ur being very superficial by saying that she's arrogant, just by that one comment.

Jolin is quite poor when she's young, she isnt exposed to music as much compared to jay chou. she isn't privileged to do all these things. she learns dance only when she's 18, learnt how to sing on herself w/o proper music training, unlike other artistes. THIS IS WHAT I CALLED TALENT. she is one of the few artistes who are highly educated, and among all, she's considered quite the poor and underprivileged one, unlike those uni grads who haf all the resources they can haf. i think u r being weird at comparing jolin with vivian hsu. in terms of education, age, dance, everything, she is better already. sexuality wise? im not discriminating vivian hsu for bieng porn star last time, but can you pls be cleaner with urs words, "rubbing dick". i know this is a critic hangout, but a critic can defend all he/she wants also. and a critic must be clean with his/her words too.

CuteAznBunni, on Nov 22 2006 7 19 AM, said:

omg..god..jolin totally copied britney and madonna...

just shows how much jolin likes 2 copy ppl..seriously come up with ur OWN music and moves...stupid jolin

hmm do you spend a large amt of time criticising jolin?

This post has been edited by pretence: 27 November 2006 - 06:02 PM

[i.luv.you]

Jolin songs are really good.. but for looks i think she puts an excessive makeup , dyes her hair yellow which makes her look so unnatural looking.. she's much better now with black hair.. but i still find her so materalistic like she's not being herself.. and i agree..she isn't beautiful like i was shocked to see some of the photos of her without makeup and watch dancing diva music video for those that haven't seen yet.. she looks horrible in that video and im guessing that she didn't put on any makeup.

pretence, on Nov 27 2006 9 03 AM, said:

pls lah, since when vivian hsu write her own tune. jolin did write her own songs lah, pls (lyrics). Jolin doesnt receive music educatin since young thats why she cant compose. and she is much more educated than jay lah please, and know how to dance, and of course has better looks. jay is just overrated, not sayng that he's not good, but saying that jolin doesnt fit him is just atrocious. in this asian society when guys r supposed to recieve more privileges at education, i tink its bad that jay cant even match up to jolin in terms of education standard. and jay cant sing, he just mumbles. and his composing skills are deteriorating!
and do you know what is a joke!? when she says you all have to do what she instructs.. i tink ur being very superficial by saying that she's arrogant, just by that one comment.

Jolin is quite poor when she's young, she isnt exposed to music as much compared to jay chou. she isn't privileged to do all these things. she learns dance only when she's 18, learnt how to sing on herself w/o proper music training, unlike other artistes. THIS IS WHAT I CALLED TALENT. she is one of the few artistes who are highly educated, and among all, she's considered quite the poor and underprivileged one, unlike those uni grads who haf all the resources they can haf. i think u r being weird at comparing jolin with vivian hsu. in terms of education, age, dance, everything, she is better already. sexuality wise? im not discriminating vivian hsu for bieng porn star last time, but can you pls be cleaner with urs words, "rubbing dick". i know this is a critic hangout, but a critic can defend all he/she wants also. and a critic must be clean with his/her words too.
hmm do you spend a large amt of time criticising jolin?

that isn't considered a lot. hehe i spent in one critics forum typing like 600 + words

mathskiddy, on Nov 21 2006 2 43 AM, said:

i hate her man.. she is so damn act...

if u noticed her in Beautiful Cooking.. u will noe she is very very idiotic

Let me correct your english grammar for you...

" I hate her man, she so can not act...

if you watched her in Beautiful Cooking.. you will know what an idiot she is."

[miniodd]

pretence, on Nov 28 2006 1 03 AM, said:

pls lah, since when vivian hsu write her own tune. jolin did write her own songs lah, pls (lyrics). Jolin doesnt receive music educatin since young thats why she cant compose. and she is much more educated than jay lah please, and know how to dance, and of course has better looks. jay is just overrated, not sayng that he's not good, but saying that jolin doesnt fit him is just atrocious. in this asian society when guys r supposed to recieve more privileges at education, i tink its bad that jay cant even match up to jolin in terms of education standard. and jay cant sing, he just mumbles. and his composing skills are deteriorating!
and do you know what is a joke!? when she says you all have to do what she instructs.. i tink ur being very superficial by saying that she's arrogant, just by that one comment.

Jolin is quite poor when she's young, she isnt exposed to music as much compared to jay chou. she isn't privileged to do all these things. she learns dance only when she's 18, learnt how to sing on herself w/o proper music training, unlike other artistes. THIS IS WHAT I CALLED TALENT. she is one of the few artistes who are highly educated, and among all, she's considered quite the poor and underprivileged one, unlike those uni grads who haf all the resources they can haf. i think u r being weird at comparing jolin with vivian hsu. in terms of education, age, dance, everything, she is better already. sexuality wise? im not discriminating vivian hsu for bieng porn star last time, but can you pls be cleaner with urs words, "rubbing dick". i know this is a critic hangout, but a critic can defend all he/she wants also. and a critic must be clean with his/her words too.
hmm do you spend a large amt of time criticising jolin?

Erm..could I just butt in in response to your comment '...can you pls be cleaner with urs words, "rubbing dick" ' cuz I just found it funny. What would you say she was doing then, in her concert where Stanley was the guest performer, and her head was...well....literally rubbing in "that area".

Or what about the zillion other disgusting "dance movements" she had? Or what about the clothes she was wearing? sl*t. No offence but I really can't think of another nicer way to describe it.

ok, as for the comment where she supposedly said "i'm the little perfect princess" or goodness knows wat the heck she was saying (just reading that gives me goosebumps...*princess* ewwwwwww). If she really was merely joking around then I'll just say "ok maybe she's not as arrogant as you say but she sure is a BIMBO".

Btw I think Vivian Hsu has indeed written lyrics as well (if I remember correctly one of Jay Chou's song was written by her). Not sure if she's composed though. Not like JOLIN can compose either.

Talent? Psh.

Talent for stripping you mean.